tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post6082121958013285214..comments2023-03-25T08:58:02.047-04:00Comments on Confessions of a Starship Politician: CCP's Defining QuestionMadOverlordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01204905457718170827noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-83195165736540961042011-07-01T03:39:49.959-04:002011-07-01T03:39:49.959-04:00@Tir Arsil
Have to agree with everything you said...@Tir Arsil<br /><br />Have to agree with everything you said there and would like to maybe add some more related to it...<br /><br />So it looks like CCP might be looking to dump the old player base and at the same time take on a newer player base attracted by walking in stations and SP purchasing and micro/ macro transactions all at the same time... However the reality of the situation is that while WiS might attract a broader new player base at first, they will soon realize that eve is terrible game that is still about internet space ships and then leave. Unless CCP puts allot of effort to fix some of the many issues of eve (just look at the backlog) this is what I'll think will happen... And history shows that ccp isn't really interested in doing this at all.Quafehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09395465729437638315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-32946706692020318222011-06-29T10:36:57.171-04:002011-06-29T10:36:57.171-04:00Hey there Trebor good luck with tomorrow - you'...Hey there Trebor good luck with tomorrow - you've probably seen these anyway but could you please took over these threads and raise the issues at the meeting if possible. all the best and good luck - we're counting on you! <br /><br />http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1541703<br /><br />http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1538210<br /><br />Jade ConstantineJade Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07253535735183128344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-38021316830379410542011-06-26T21:42:14.393-04:002011-06-26T21:42:14.393-04:00Trebor,
Please hold CCP's feet to the proverb...Trebor,<br /><br />Please hold CCP's feet to the proverbial fire on this one for us all...<br /><br />1. NeX must be for vanity items only, no golden ammo.<br />2. A realistic plan for protecting their intellectual property, not to include an annual tax for those who only take ISK for services. If reeal money is transacted, they pay $99 per year. If they only take ISK, then they should be able to pay the fee in ISK. (CCP has already set rough conversion rates for ISK/PLEX/Aurum, so it should be a simple process and still show that a transaction has train place to protect their IP.)<br />3. Show us the love... Go back and fix some of the things we have been king for. (New PVP ships, hangar view, Faction warfare...). Represent that Players can be allies in building a great brand, if they will listen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-78441583493142799932011-06-26T14:24:53.020-04:002011-06-26T14:24:53.020-04:00Hilmar Veigar Petursson – CEO of CCP Games, since ...Hilmar Veigar Petursson – CEO of CCP Games, since 2004, to attend Games Horizon Conference, 28-29th June 2011, Gateshead, UK.<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/68mnewo<br /><br />I've emailed the BBC's "Click!" program to suggest they may want to ask him what all the the in-game protests are all about.g_l_hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03335973002304454076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-10991893338483521212011-06-25T18:49:52.270-04:002011-06-25T18:49:52.270-04:00@MadOverlord,
Frankly I'm not sure you or the...@MadOverlord,<br /><br />Frankly I'm not sure you or the other CSM delegates can take what CCP are telling you as being the gospel truth.<br /><br />Look, CCP Shadow (who may not be managment but is/was a company employee) said last year: No microtransactions in EVE. Yes, I realise what we have no bears little resemblance to "microtransactions" but...<br /><br />We have a cash shop, we have an expansion who's sole reason for existence is, I feel, to push you towards that cash shop. We can't get CCP to give an honest answer to "MT for gold ammo?" and instead they've spent 4 days squirming. <br /><br />The only way back from this is frankly removing the NeX store, refunding people their ISK and then remove PLEX as well; I'm sorry but Hilmar's tweet shows he/they consider that to be a microtransaction as well so whilst it will be painful for the player base it too must go. <br /><br />There is zero chance of CCP removing NeX no matter how badly they botched it. We all know this now.<br /><br />Instead I would respectfully suggest the CSM ask a very different question: Just how messed up is CCP financially? And if they give even the slightest whiff of it being farked company... LEAK IT.Van'https://www.blogger.com/profile/03338605055348655505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-5204466130671520242011-06-25T17:42:14.521-04:002011-06-25T17:42:14.521-04:00I greatly appreciate all of these comments. Just a...I greatly appreciate all of these comments. Just a quick note to let you know that CSM is working very hard on this issue. Hope to have an update for you soon.MadOverlordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01204905457718170827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-74488988377080477262011-06-25T17:31:38.024-04:002011-06-25T17:31:38.024-04:00I'd also wonder if the 18months thing cost the...I'd also wonder if the 18months thing cost them 35k subscribers (not all of whom came back) according to the graphs I've seen but only 100 or so ragequit on the forums: what has this cost them?<br /><br />We're up to what? 1000 accounts being closed openly on the eve-o forums, potentially more if you include failheap & others (some cross over). <br /><br />So that's what? 100k accounts out the window and now buring their remaining game time?? If it's anywhere near that figure then that's got to be well beyond EVE's breaking point.Van'https://www.blogger.com/profile/03338605055348655505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-7212704875160391452011-06-25T17:25:27.413-04:002011-06-25T17:25:27.413-04:00I don't mean to rabble rouse, well not intenti...I don't mean to rabble rouse, well not intentionally. But I, hand on heart, swear that in the final seconds of the EVE radio stream (which was already cutting out) I heard Mittens say "That's it Gold Ammo is comming" and then the Jukebox. <br /><br />Now I might not like the Goons but I do respect Mittens and if that is what he said I think it's Game Over.Van'https://www.blogger.com/profile/03338605055348655505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-47194219649940007912011-06-25T16:57:35.425-04:002011-06-25T16:57:35.425-04:00While the choice between craptastic CQ and door ht...While the choice between craptastic CQ and door http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535011&page=1 infuriates me, in the longer term you're dead right it's the question of non-vanity MT items that decides Eve's future.Wizardlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09909560634283080251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-33003552534771113862011-06-25T16:14:33.957-04:002011-06-25T16:14:33.957-04:00I feel they've looked at F2P market trends and...I feel they've looked at F2P market trends and based on what the results were from the recent user survey (which no one seems to have mentioned during all this) that asked about such things as how much we spent on gaming and other hobbies, they determined what their new target player would be and damn everyone else.<br /><br />So what if they lie to us and stir up a huge shitstorm, resulting in several hundred (or thousand) players dropping? It's a calculated loss. What was one of the things that kept new players out of the game previously? Lackof a player avatar -- so what do we have now? What was another thing? That new players could never catch up to older players -- so whatwill we have eventually?<br /><br />The CCP of 100 devs working in isolation in Iceland on something super nerdy and cool is over. This is now the CCP of 600+ employees on four continents with massive overhead and two new games still in development. They have different goals now, and those don't necessarily include placating the current player base because we only pay $15/mo (or many not at all as they earn enough ISK to not pay any $) and whose presence is viewed as a marketing obstacle to new player adoption.Tir Arsilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01703395761607066677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-43423942533787320502011-06-25T16:14:23.272-04:002011-06-25T16:14:23.272-04:00I like how the memo specifically addresses any con...I like how the memo specifically addresses any confusion as to whether super items would have to be bought or we would have to exchange items of equal status for stuff like paintjobs. Nope, they want to sell super-ammo. <br /><br />But who are we to judge. We, the typical EVE player, will buy a $500 leather jacket to match our in-game ship.Ming Sinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15057953328210403850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-44458872062762341172011-06-25T14:52:03.497-04:002011-06-25T14:52:03.497-04:00Assuming Hilmar's email is legit (and it seems...Assuming Hilmar's email is legit (and it seems it is), the question has been answered, surely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-83738484636734360922011-06-25T14:21:31.922-04:002011-06-25T14:21:31.922-04:00I hope CCP listens to the CSM for once! I really d...I hope CCP listens to the CSM for once! I really do. You guys are doing a great job. I hope you get the message across to CCP.DeBingJoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05748164688004703820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-23538713035456009572011-06-25T13:49:13.873-04:002011-06-25T13:49:13.873-04:00I think CCP sees its role in the game industry as ...I think CCP sees its role in the game industry as one of "redefining expectations", so I believe they want to be the first to successfully sell P2W, and have the gaming industry look at them with awe and envy. Unfortunately, it will instead be CCP's NGE moment, rather than an event that changes the gaming industry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-77849565312180253792011-06-25T13:20:03.639-04:002011-06-25T13:20:03.639-04:00Part of the problem also seems to be the total dis...Part of the problem also seems to be the total disconnect between CCP management and this issue. They don't seem capable of recognizing what is important to the player base, even with the CSM telling them.<br /><br />Communication will always be a problem with them. More than likely its a big problem on an internal level as well. The big picture questions is, will it be what drives the game and the company into the ground?mode_xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07082123952155844507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-66250339690399013192011-06-25T12:06:10.633-04:002011-06-25T12:06:10.633-04:00Nicely summed up, I agree wholeheartedly.Nicely summed up, I agree wholeheartedly.Dr Deushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033778705775689599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-85829546147819611172011-06-25T11:54:33.621-04:002011-06-25T11:54:33.621-04:00That IS essentially the question everyone's tr...That IS essentially the question everyone's trying to get an answer to...the future direction of this game AND its foreseen impact on the current status of it. Interesting times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-65554810209404594712011-06-25T11:51:21.350-04:002011-06-25T11:51:21.350-04:00Very well said sir! Thank you for doing what we el...Very well said sir! Thank you for doing what we elected you to do.debaserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15783091987321390667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-25198286995477476882011-06-25T11:51:20.031-04:002011-06-25T11:51:20.031-04:00From the latest(now confirmed) Hilmar mass message...From the latest(now confirmed) Hilmar mass message leak, his "stay the course" means he intends to.Bellochehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00122541080780218946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-16746486275034333742011-06-25T11:43:49.009-04:002011-06-25T11:43:49.009-04:00100% right - No-one cares about anity items. It...100% right - No-one cares about anity items. It's the utter disrespect for the community and plans for play-to-win that makes people angey.Maegrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03454702795178703210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4602866399420215362.post-56561358350382407292011-06-25T11:28:46.535-04:002011-06-25T11:28:46.535-04:00Totally agree. It's hard to believe that CCP c...Totally agree. It's hard to believe that CCP continues to ignore what is happening, I hope the protest doesn't die until our subscriptions do. I am sticking to protesting until my 3 subs expire in the coming weeks.Haunting Widowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14784869512872246534noreply@blogger.com